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Obsession bows continue to satisfy and amaze archers around the globe by producing top of the line hi-performance bows that exceed archer's expectations. Obsession bows has once again received Outdoor Life's Editors Choice Award of the year in 2016! This is the second time that Obsession has received this prestigious award.
For me shooting a bow that has been strategically designed and engineered with both the tournament shooter and hunter in mind that is fast, accurate, quiet, smooth, forgiving and surprisingly easy to tune excites me! My Obsession DefCon6 provides all this and more. I’m slinging 400 grain arrows around 330 fps and stacking arrows against each other at 80 yards. And I can’t believe how amazingly easy to tune this bow was. Virtually no cam lean which is impressive for a bow without a yoke. Obsession bows are quiet and so freakin’ sexy that this bow could put deer in the rut in July! Obsession bows continue to provide off the scale performance.
The tweaked FX1 cam with the PerFX draw stop eliminates cam lean that is seen on a lot of bows today and allows for a rock solid back wall. A solid back wall is what I desire for a more consistent anchor point. As long as you stay solid on the wall then the less creeping you will do before each shot. The bow balances very well. At the shot the bow doesn’t begin moving forward until after the arrow has cleared the riser. I set my bows up to slightly tilt forward after the shot. After tuning and shooting the bow I asked myself, ‘What else could one expect out of a super performance bow?’. Honestly I will have to think about that one for a while because I could not think of anything else right off the top of my head.
Another surprise - this high performance bow could not have been any easier to tune. I had this bow shooting perfect bullet holes through the paper in 4 shots!! No super tuning necessary. I mean I literally spent maybe a total of 5 minutes tuning this bow. Now that super excited me and gave me a sigh of relief knowing that I wouldn’t have to spend hours performing tedious tuning tasks on a bow slinging arrows this fast. The bow’s draw cycle is extremely smooth and consistently holds point without any effort. The bow does seem to reach the peak of the draw force curve fairly quick but in a silky smooth way. I barely noticed any hump that I usually dread from fast bows right before the draw cycle falls into the valley. And talk about a shot that’s dead in the hand, the split second of vibration felt at the shot is so miniscule that it’s not even worth mentioning.
The aesthetics on Obsession bows are awesome and just plain sexy! The camo options are many. They offer a camo color that is effective in any terrain that you hunt in. For my Obsession Defcon6 I chose the Kryptek Highlander camo. For a test I placed the bow in the foliage where I hunt at the most (Georgia). I walked back a few paces and then turned around to see if the bow stood out against the foliage. I swear when I say you could not spot the bow against the foliage. I mean the bow was invisible! The Kryptek camo blend perfectly matched the terrain I was in. My other choice of color is black. It’s always good to keep a black bow available when hunting out of blinds.
In closing I certainly recommend that you shoot the Obsession bow line before making a bow decision and investing your hard earned money. I’m willing to bet you will be glad you did. Oh and I want to say that Dennis and Angela Lewis, President and Vice President of Obsession Bows, are two of the most sincere people you could ever meet. They are 100% committed to customer satisfaction and as country friendly as you could ever ask for. Check'em out at Obsessionbows.com
I have heard good reviews from the Nufletch Ignitor nocks lately. I decided to take a chance and give these nocks a try. I was not disappointed!
I have had the opportunity to give the Nufletch Ignitor nocks a thorough test as I have been shooting these nocks for a while now. I used the nocks while hunting in Africa this year and I will tell you that the nocks performed perfectly throughout the trip. I managed to take a beautiful Kudu, Impala and Warthog in Africa while using the Ignitor nocks. I had absolute confidence in the performance of these nocks or I would not have used them on my arrows during this possibly only once in a life time hunt.
After over a thousand shots I have not had a single issue with the light activating and illuminating when triggered at the shot. I intentionally allowed the battery to die in a few of the light sticks that I use for practice so that I can continue to use the same light sticks without wearing down the battery in new light sticks. I did not count the hours as it took a few weeks of shooting maybe 50 arrows a day before the battery died. Their website claims that the batteries can last up to 50 hours. I can tell you they lasted many hours before the battery did finally die.
The nocks appear to fly very true. They are fully index-able. I often times shoot at long distances while practicing. At 80 yards the nocks are grouping extremely well. To date for me so far the nocks have been waterproof. You can shoot with or without the light stick embedded in the nock. I decided to keep the light sticks installed even while practicing so that I am always shooting the exact same weight. However the light sticks only weigh a few grains and does not affect where the arrow impacts when shooting without the light stick installed in the nock.
One thing that helps perfect alignment of the nock which is crucial for accuracy is the insert that is used at the back of the arrow to house the nock. This also allows for easy on/off illumination of the light stick. Simply pull the nock out of the insert, pull the bulb on the light stick and the light turns off.
For more information be sure to check out the Nufletch Ignitor Nocks or contact Nufletch Archery at: 877-353-8244
WHICH ARROW REST????? My choice drop away arrow rest for today’s super-fast technologically advanced bows is the QAD ULTRAREST. I have used nearly every rest on the market. Yet I always come back to the proven reliable ULTRAREST. I have been shooting the QAD ULTRAREST for many years now. When I first began using the QAD rest I admit that I did have some skepticism because I feared there was potential for trigger malfunction. This concern has been put to 'rest' (no pun intended).
I can honestly tell you that after shooting literally thousands of arrows I have never had an issue with any QAD ULTRAREST to date! The drop-away launcher always falls with precise timing offering absolute vane clearance (see the slow motion video below). After your bow is tuned and the rest locked down you can rest assured that the ULTRAREST is there to stay and not going to move on you even after literally thousands of shots. The ULTRAREST was designed with full arrow containment preventing any concerns about your arrow falling off the rest regardless of the position of your bow.
QAD offers the ULTRAREST in a plethora of colors and customizations to fit most bows on the market today. I have an orange ULTRAREST on my Obsession Defcon 6. The orange color matches the color of my Obsession cams perfectly. Looks sweet!
QAD offers custom models to fit specific bows and they offer models to fit any budget. They didn’t skimp on the cheaper models. The triggering mechanism on each of the models are the same. The only difference is the adjustability options.
Using the QAD ULTRAREST provides me with the utmost confidence in my bow equipment. Having 100% confidence in your equipment while in the field or while competing makes each day a better day!
QAD also offers additional quality built archery equipment including the popular Exodus broadheads, arrow nocks, metal loops and a sleek compression fit armguard that can store your phone, deer call or flashlight. Your phone is useable while stored in the armguard.
If you’re not already using the ULTAREST then I highly recommend that you check them out at qadinc.com . I’m pretty sure you will be glad you did.
All the best and God Bless!
When it comes to shooting whether it be with firearm or bow & arrow I expect my equipment to perform with the utmost accurracy. I strive for accuracy even with short barreled conceal carry pistols. The three dot sighting system used on most conceal carry and larger framed pistols prevents me from shooting as well as I would like. Due to that I began searching online for a sighting system that will allow me to quickly acquire my target and fire more accurately.
I was actually excited when I found the ATS sight system. ATS stands for Advanced Tactical Sight. With the ATS system you simply line the front sight with the rear sight until the two fit together to create the perfect pyramid. When the pyramid is complete simply place the tip of the front sight on your target and squeeze the trigger. The ATS system prevents you from having to try to center a dot in between two dots. While using the dot method if your dot is not perfectly centered both vertically and horizontally you will shoot either high/low left or right. The ATS system resolves this issue and makes the aiming process much easier and more natural. Additionally you will acquire your target quicker and make more accurate shots.
After installing the ATS sights on my Sig Sauer P238 and my Springfield XDM I can honestly say that my groups have closed up. I may still have a flyer on occasion however this is obviously due to me the shooter. As far as installation is concerned I was able to install the sights myself. I am mechanically inclined so this helps. It was necessary to purchase a sight pusher to remove the sights from my firearms as they are tightly pressed into slots. The Springfield XD front sights are notorious for being incredibly difficult to remove since they are hydraulically pressed in. I had to do very little fitting on the ATS front sight for my XDM. I rubbed the ATS sight on some very fine grit sandpaper just a few times and then was able to install the front sight with just the right amount of force to keep it in place. I did not have to perform any fitting modifications on the ATS sights for the Sig P238.
In conclusion I would recommend these sights. They may take a little bit of getting used to but I feel after a few rounds at the range these will make you a more accurate shooter. ATS also offers a night sight with their system. Be sure to check out the ATS system online for more information.
Do you have a desire to enhance the looks of your bow, gun, or pretty much anything for that matter? If so then I HIGHLY recommend Evolved Tactical Coatings. This company offers hydrographic dipping and cerakoting. I was looking around for a company that could dip a new rifle when a friend recommended these guys. I dropped off a new Ruger American rifle to have dipped in Muddy Girl camo for my fianc'e. I have to say that we were surprisingly impressed at how bright and vibrant the colors came out on the rifle. The picture below is the 'before' and 'after'. The high quality of the work was obvious. She's happy - Mission accomplished!!
In addition to providing high quality work these guys are also down to earth good 'ol boys, as friendly as you could ever ask for. They have a number of designs and colors to choose from. Be sure to check our Evolved Tactical Coatings for all of your dipping and cerakoting needs.
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If you take your hunting serious like me then you have more than likely tried multiple brands of scent attractants to assist with covering your scent while hopefully attracting deer. Well if you have done this then more than likely your results have been more on the negative side instead of positive. I can’t tell you how many times I was using a particular attractant when some does would approach my deer stand along with a buck bringing up the rear. Then all at once the does would immediately go into alert mode, start blowing and then trot off in the opposite direction. Of course the buck follows and the outcome is always the same, I have no shot opportunity. Yep, it's FRUSTRATING!
I am excited to tell you guys that has now changed. I was introduced to ‘Bowhunter’s Fatal Obsession Attractant’ by Whitetail Obsession Scents. I was a bit skeptical the first time I began spraying the BFO (Bowhunter's Fatal Obsession) around my stand knowing my past experiences with other scent attractants. However to my surprise every doe that I saw that weekend would literally go out of their way to come and checkout where I sprayed the scent on the vegetation. In fact I had a long walk to my stand that afternoon and it was a warm day. By the time I arrived to my stand I was drenched in sweat. This is something we have to deal with during bow season here in Georgia. Anyway as soon as I climbed into my treestand and pulled up my bow I heard something walking behind my tree. I thought this could not be a deer because I am sweaty and I just climbed the tree. I turned to look and was shocked to see a mature doe just a few yards behind my tree. She walked directly into one of my shooting lanes where I sprayed the Bowhunters Fatal Obsession attractant and began smelling the leaves and bushes I had sprayed. She was acting really peculiar.
She wasn’t alarmed in any way. She was more in ‘curious’ mode than anything. That same evening a decent 8 point came in and offered me a shot. The 8 point never once displayed any signs of being alert. It’s almost like this attractant has some sort of ‘calming’ effect to it. I managed to take the 8 point home. I was excited about this attractant and was texting my buddy who was hunting not far away telling him how shocked I was that these deer are not spooking from the scent.
I loaned him my bottle of BFO. The following weekend he calls me to tell me how a few does walked right into his shooting area and began sniffing the scent. A few weeks later on the day after Thanksgiving he decides to hunt that morning and ended up taking the largest buck he has ever taken with his bow. He was using Bowhunter Fatal Obsession attractant that morning. Ok so for all those that know me then you know this story is 100% true. I can’t say if the BFO is the reason the deer came in and presented a shot opportunity but I can certainly say the deer didn’t spook before he took the shot.
I decided to do some research on this attractant to see what others have experienced. I have heard of quite a few other successful stories from hunters using BFO. In fact the biggest negative I could find was that some deer didn’t come in to the scent. In my opinion that is not an issue. At least the deer didn’t spook and go into alert mode. Sometimes deer are on a destination and nothing can pull them from that.
I spoke with the manufacturers to ask how long the scent lasts and should it be refrigerated. I was told that BFO will last up to three years and never has to be refrigerated. I was warned to not leave the scent in any area that stays hot.
If you are looking for a scent that has proven to not spook deer and even make the deer curious then I would highly recommend Bowhunter’s Fatal Obsession Attractant. It definitely worked for me!
Ramcat has proven that they know how to make a quality product. In fact in my opinion the Ramcat broadheads are by far the best broadhead on the market today! I have often heard hunters state that the Ramcat cut is so wide that they have no room in their quiver to house the Ramcat broadheads without one of the blades making contact somewhere in the hood of the quiver.
What is important is that when your broadhead makes contact with your quarry it does the absolute most damage possible to quickly and ethically expire that animal. If the cutting width is diminished to satisfy fitting quivers then I personally feel that takes away respect for the game that I hunt.
I remember a while back Brett Fulton and I discussing this concern, and I remember telling Brett that actually I think this is a good problem to have. I also mentioned that I certainly hope Ramcat does not shrink their cutting width to satisfy quiver issues. Folks it’s not about the quiver.
I mean let’s face it, the 100 grain Ramcats have a 1 3/8” cutting diameter and the 125 grain Ramcats have a 1 ½” cutting diameter which is HUGE compared to other broadheads on the market. And these broadheads fly perfectly. So no, let’s not reduce the cutting diameter of an amazing broadhead to fit a quiver. Instead, let’s make a quiver to fit the broadhead.
I am excited to say that Ramcat has done exactly that! Instead of trying to fix something that isn’t broke they decided to design a quiver to custom fit their broadheads. And they didn’t cut any corners on quality. The Ramcat quiver is well designed, it’s quiet and it's heavy duty. The quiver has an aluminum Tree Limb premium frame, dual grippers to grip the arrows, fits many of the other brands of broadheads on the market and it has a rock solid tension mount. I choose to remove my quiver when in the stand. The quiver mounts very quietly to the bow and removes quietly. The frame is also designed so that the quiver can be hung on a tree limb while in your tree hunting. Each arrow gripper has a 'thumb' lip so that you can pry apart the gripper and the arrow can squeeze into the gripper easily without having to snap the arrow hard into place. They thought of everything when designing this quiver.
Folks if you are concerned about your Ramcats fitting in your old quiver then you must checkout the new custom designed Ramcat quiver.
Thank you Ramcat for producing another excellent product!
You guys should check out the new Tenzing packs! This year my primary pack will be the Tenzing 1500. I just received this pack and I have to tell you that I am impressed. This is the perfect sized pack for my style of hunting. I take my hunting seriously and will only use quality products that meet my needs in the field. I often tend to stay in the field or in a tree stand all day. This pack will provide me with all of the carrying capacity that I need including room for layering clothes, snacks, flashlights, gps and all other necessities for each days hunt. I really like that there are 12 total compartments including 6 zippered pockets to assist me with separating items that I carry. Nothing worse than having to dig around in your pack in the dark searching for one specific item. The Tenzing 1500 was designed with enough compartments to allow the hunter to neatly organize each of the items that we carry to and from the field each day. No digging around searching for a single item cluttered amongst dozens of other items in one large pocket in the dark.
I also really like the gun/bow boot that comes with the pack. Holding a bow or gun for long distances in the field can wear you down. Tenzing's 1500 pack resolves this issue with their gun/bow boot which will easily and safely carry your gun or bow.
Be sure to check out all of the features of this pack and each of the other packs that Tenzing Outdoors offers.
The RamCat broadheads have been tested and proven themselves to be the DEEPEST PENETRATING broadheads on the market today. If anyone has proof of a broadhead that penetrates better than the RamCats then please email me and let me know!
I have tested many of the most popular broadheads on the market today and have yet to find one that penetrates as well as the RamCats. First view of the RamCat may cause you to wonder how this unique broadhead functions. Click here to see a test that I performed shooting the RamCat through a 1/2" piece of plywood. I expected the head to penetrate the plywood but I didn't expect the RamCat and the entire arrow to blow through so easily and then penetrate into my cloth targert. I shot four other broadheads into this piece of plywood and none of the other heads had a complete arrow pass through. Click here to see this test: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CSpp0_6SoiY
The 100 grain RamCat has a 1 3/8" cutting diameter with blades that are sharpened on both sides. The 125 grain RamCat has a 1 1/2" cutting diameter. The blades actually roll forward to cut backwards if the arrow does not pass through. Needless to say this causes explosive hemmoraging along with a massive blood trail for tracking!
Not only has this broadhead been proven to have the absolute best penetration, but the RamCat flies so accurate that they will group exactly with your field points.
I have performed flight tests at distances up to 60 yards and witnessed the RamCats impacting with my field point group. I have spoken to others who have shot these heads at 80 yards with pinpoint accuracy with field points.
Characteristically all broadheads will tell on you at the target if your form is not up to par. However when you use proper form you will absolutely not have a problem with these broadheads hitting exactly with field points.
New innovations include changing the stainless steel body ferrule from a 300 series stainless steel to a 400 series stainless steel and heat treating it for additional strength, using a new blade sharpening process that will make the blades even sharper, adding the Aero Insert Technology made by Firenock which is a 2 O-ring system (licensed to Ramcat Broadheads) which will guarantee that the threaded shank will be absolutely centered in all inserts and will disallow the broadhead from loosening on the shaft, adding new left hand blade screws to tighten blades into the loaded position more easily, increasing allen socket on blade screws from .050" to 1/16" for easy, consistent tightening, revising blades so they will rotate forward further for easier arrow extraction (back cut) in game or targets, and increasing the threaded shank length by 1 1/2 threads to accommodate all inserts.
In addition, we have added the 100 and 125 grain Deep Six Ramcats which will accommodate the Easton Deep Six arrows.
Don't take my word for it folks. Research the online testimonials on how well these RamCats perform. Check out RamCat broadheads to see additional video footage of the RamCats creating satisfied hunters across the nation.
The people at Hunter Safety System have been saving lives and providing hunters with a safe way to enjoy treestand hunting longer than any other treestand safety harness company out there. This fact alone makes it obvious that HSS has the most experience when it comes to providing you with safe, reliable and comfortable treestand hunting.
Yes I have tried all the rest and then I went with the best! The other harnesses were well designed. However after multiple tests both on and off the field my top choice is the Hunter Safety System products.
The HSS safety harnesses are shipped not only with a tree strap but also comes with a free lineman’s climbing strap so that you will not have to purchase one separately. The lineman strap will keep you safe as you ascend and descend your tree.
Each year HSS adds new hi-tech designs to their arsenal of safety vests. This past year I used the HSS Hybrid. Man was I pleased with the fit, comfort, ease of use and especially enjoyed the handwarmer pockets. This vest has 6 pockets in close proximity which made it very practical for accessing my hunting devices with very little movement.
HSS also offers a line of accessories that will interact with your HSS harness and assist you with your outdoor needs. I would certainly recommend their 'Rope Style Tree Strap'. This strap is equipped with a prussic knot which proves to be the ultimate in convenience for climbing and securing yourself quickly and safely to the tree. I also found that when drawing my bow the Rope Style Tree Strap is completely out of my way. I have had trouble in the past with wide belt straps hindering my draw. With the Rope Style Tree Strap that is no longer a concern. Just one more obstacle out of the way when the big Pope & Young provides you with an opportunity!
Not only do they make an excellent product but you will be dealing with a great company that incorporates excellent employees that are there for you.
Be sure to check out Hunter Safety System today!
If you are an avid bowhunter like me then you have to agree that we have all been waiting for a full containment suit that allows us bowhunter’s to be able to make accurate shots without interference from the suit.
IWOM Outerwear has absolutely exceeded my expectations. The IWOM Hunting System was designed with the bowhunter in mind. They thought of everything folks. The material is quiet, completely water proof with sealed seams, immensely warm and flexible so that I can stand up and turn to make a shot behind the stand while fully contained in the IWOM Hunting suit.
The IWOM Hunting System even incorporated scent management into this suit and a built in handwarmer. They use SmartSilver scent management to help eliminate odor causing bacteria. This allows for maximum elimination of your body’s odor while wearing the IWOM. The suit comes equipped with a single strap that will allow you to pull the fabric snug against your body in an effort to prevent any loose material from interfering with your shot. This is fantastic!
The suit was also engineered to be extremely mobile. You can wear the suit wrapped up neatly in its own carry bag around your waist while traveling to and from your stand.
Or you can wear just the Parka portion to your stand and then when the weather demands deploy the lower section from the waist to contain your legs and feet for all day warmth and scent containment.
My advice? CHECK OUT IWOM OUTERWEAR! You will be glad you did!
LAST CHANCE ARCHERY offers the most efficient easy to use bow press in the world! I have used many different bow presses in my shop. I was so impressed with the simplicity and time saving features offered on the Last Chance Archery press that I knew I had to have one.
When you purchase one of these presses you will no longer have to take additional unnecessary time to reconfigure the press to fit different length bows.
If anything, you may have to slide one of the limb gripping fingers in or out just a bit. This takes about 2 seconds.
I have yet to find a bow that I cannot press while using the Last Chance Archery press. They offer multiple presses to fit your budget and shop configuration.
My favorite is the Power Press Deluxe. This particular version comes with a variable speed electric motor and will go from a 28" to a 42" bow in less than 30 seconds. This press will press up to 70 lbs. of draw weight.
The Power Press Deluxe includes a pivot system that will go from horizontal to vertical for easy access to finish bow set-up.
If you want to press more weight then you will need the manual version as seen below which will allow you to turn the wheel to press the bows.
The manual components are machined for smooth and easy operation. Be sure to check out all of the different press models and accessories offered by Last Chance Archery. I was even able to use the Last Chance press to hold my bowstrings tight so that they could be served. I simply turned the fingers around backwards and then placed the string on the fingers and stretched the string until it was tight. This made serving the strings easy!
If you have a desire to tune your bow to its utmost potential then you must have a draw board. For 2015 LCA has designed one of the most user friendly draw boards on the market that will easily adapt to any of their bow presses. Be sure to review their new draw board design here.
Last Chance Archery also offers the EZ Vise bow vise. This vise allows you to maneuver your bow into any position while working on your bow. The vise works with any bow. Most bow vises are comprised of a one piece vise mounted to a bench. The EZ Vise is comprised of a vise mounted to two independent arms connected via ball joints. This method allows more maneuverability than any vise I have ever seen.
Be sure to check out Last Chance Archery and their accessories. Their products will make life easier while working on any bow!
ARCHERY INNOVATIONS has designed a device that will allow you to remove your peep forever. There are many 'no-peep' type devices on the market.
I have tried each of these devices that I felt had the potential to truly allow me to remove my peep yet shoot just as good or better with a no peep type of device. To my surprise there were a few devices out there that did work. However after relentless testing I have decided without a doubt that the Anchor Sight from Archery Innovations is my top choice.
The Anchor Sight was the easiest to setup and adjust. This device has micro-adjustments that are easy to get to even after being installed on the bow. The Anchor Sight bracket is very versatile, thus allowing you multiple configurations when installing on your bow.
I could easily write a few pages on the benefits of this sight. To sum it up I will tell you for a fact that you will acquire your target faster and easier, you will have more hunting time due to the fact that you will no longer have to look through a small peep hole early in the morning or late in the afternoon when the lighting is low.
After removing your peep your bow should speed up at least 1-2 feet per second. And you will no longer have to deal with the aggravation of installing a peep and turning the string until the peep lines up. How many times have you heard someone say their peep didn't turn to the proper position at full draw costing them a shot??
The Anchor Sight is also durably made. I have been shooting one for over two years and have never had to readjust the device. I even dropped my bow while climbing down the tree one time. The only adjustment I had to make after dropping the bow involved the arrow rest.
I feel very confident in saying that if you ever truly use the Anchor Sight and give yourself time to get used to the sight, then you will never go back to a peep.
I promised myself that if I did not shoot as well or better with the Anchor Sight as opposed to a peep sight then I would go back to shooting a peep.
I have competed in multiple world competition tournaments and shot 3d in the pro circuit for years. I only wish that I had the Anchor Sight during that time. This device would have been great during those shots at dark 3d targets in low light forests!
HydroTurf Traction Mats are extremely slick proof mats that also provide a layer of cushioning. Before we installed our HydroTurf mats we had to be careful not to slip during a night of bowfishing due to the moisture and fish slime that accumulates on the deck throughout the night. After installing the HydroTurf mats we were able to walk around the deck without worrying about slipping. As an added bonus the mats were much more comfortable to stand on than the plain metal deck. Even after laying fish on the deck for pictures I simply hose it down and the HydroTurf is once again slip-proof and looks brand new. The HydroTurf mats will give your boat a clean new look. I am VERY IMPRESSED and VERY SATISFIED with these mats. HydroTurf has a variety of colors and styles to match your boating and pwc needs. NOTE: If you decide to make a purchase at HydroTurf be sure to mention my name, Gene Hobbs at Bowfishing Madness Guide Service and you will receive a 15% discount.